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130octane
June 5, 2009, 4:35pm Report to Moderator
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Hi all, I just came from HHO forums and I'm glad to be here. Most of those members haven't even got up to graphite yet, still making SS cells and complaining about rusty plates! Anyway, on to my idea.

I think that we should search for some type of coating to put on cheap metal that will make it resistant to the harsh environment of a fuel cell. Take Aluminum-- an inexpensive, conductive, and relitavely easy to machine metal-- and put on a coating that make it invulnerable to corrosion, pitting, etc.... I believe that an admin here already posted about how he chrome plated some copper with good results. Some problems might be, getting EVERY part of the cell coated, and maybe problems with making electrical connections to the plates.

If such a coating could be formulated, it would be a cheaper way to make cells. please post here and tell
me what you think.
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We have already made this coating on here in a post about mixing ultra fine graphite powder (or spray graphite) on to metal plates.  You mix the ultrafine powder with a marine laquer and bake it.  Results are not as good as a stainless cell but will last a whole year before upgrading or renewing the plates.  Try it yourself.  Now with my new cells I have chosen cotton cloth and soaked it several times in graphite lubricant (conductive) Not as conductive as other sources however absolutely zero magnetism conflicts and high voltage seems to get through it with very little hesitation.  So I'm able to get 9.8mmw now with the new cells.
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HI Scott,

Can you please explain the present status of your cotton cloth graphite powder dipped cell, were you able to get better efficiency over 9.98MMW, how does the powder hold to the cloth? i guess the lacquer forms a insulation coating on the surface. thanks. Daniel.
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Hi since gas prices have declined our site came to a halt i just haven't had time to get back to this now that we are working on wind turbines and such so often.  

The cotton cloth soaked in dry graphite lube worked well I was happy with it.  I used high voltage to transfer power more efficiently.  I have come to the conclusion that active cells need very low current to keep them together and high voltage 600 - 800 volts 1.2khz.  Passive cells need 1.2ghz between 1200 and 1500 volts UHF this allows us to have no electrodes at all just a antenna wrapped around our glass cell.

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